An argument over something trifling sounds exactly like what Beerus would get upset about. Nothing comes straight to mind for a good idea, so I'll give you advice instead. Q - Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword? It’s possible though that this occurred millions of years prior to his imprisonment. Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P6.5, P7.2, P8.2-3, Elder Kaioshin: “That’s riiiiight. The immensely powerful being has proven over and over again that he's capable of leveling worlds over petty grudges. Over time, the Kaioshins forget about the trapped East Kaioshin, and come to believe that the Z Sword itself grants tremendous power. Win by any means necessary. These ideas are great, will come in handy for creating the "Trifling Disagreement". Beerus sealed him in the Z-Sword to protect himself from dying. [KIBITO KAI gasps] ELDER KAI: Imagine if they keep hammering at each other, But Elder Kaioshin does describe the person who sealed him, which I guess we now have to apply to Beerus. KING KAI: Uh, all right! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. His TFS counterpart is almost identical to the original Beerus, being an epicurean, having a hair-trigger temper, being very impulsive, and very proud of his status as a deity. He may be physically weaker than the others but his place on this list is purely because even though he has lost some of his godly powers, he is able to tap into an individual’s hidden potential and unlock it completely. Bye! Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P6.5, P7.2, P8.2-3 Yep, sure wa~as.”, Goku: “…He don’t look like that amazin’ an old-timer…I’ll test him out a bit.”, Goku: “…Like I thought, he’s just an old blowhard…”, Elder Kaioshin: “It-it wasn’t my power that my enemy was freaked out by…! The East Kaioshin carelessly allows an old witch to take one of his Potara earrings. Perfect, now all I need is to come up with a story so I can do a fight between Beerus and Kai, but I need help writing the story, what will the argument be about, how will the fight play out and how will Beerus trap Old Kai in the Z sword. Also it cant be too long, I'm a good artist but I dont have all the time to draw loads of beautiful frames, maybe 10 pages or so, also I would like to keep it as lore friendly as possible. None succeed. This info is great, I would really like some of that source material, would help heaps. He wears a typical Kai outfit with teal underclothes. He also warns the Namekians against using the Dragon Balls for the sake of other planets. Bleach Wishes You A Happy Holidays With Arrancar Cosplay, Dragon Ball Heroes Unveils New Key Visual With Super Saiyan 4 Broly, Attack On Titan Gives Update on Chapter 136, Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 Releases Final Trailer, Pokemon: Secret of the Jungle Will Reveal New Info on Ash’s Father, My Hero Academia Reveals Santa Aizawa in Christmas 2020 Promo, Attack On Titan's Survey Corps Celebrates The Holidays With Festive Art, Dragon Ball Super Shares the Hopeful Fate of New Namek. In the movie itself, Whis explains that Beerus destroyed it after losing at hide-and-seek. [KING KAI sighs] KING KAI: But now we've got a bigger problem. As it has been stated, if either the God of Destruction or the Kaioshin dies, the other will perish too. In the video, Kibito Kai clearly says that he is aware of who Lord Beerus is, when elder kai begins explaining it to him. I’m assuming this happens in the same general era as his imprisonment, and arbitrarily placing it after his warning to the Namekians. Elder Kaio-shin, who had already fused with the witch, had a disagreement over something stupid, possibly relating to Elder Kaioshin's (new?) Whis: yes Beerus. Daizenshuu 7 dates this to 75 million years ago, perhaps because the current East Kaioshin is over 5 million years, making a Kaioshin generation about that long.]. And these waves gain strength the farther they travel. Beerus suddenly bolts up from his bed and shouts at whis. Ever since he was first introduced in Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods back in March 2013, Dragon Ball fans around the world have speculated over how strong Beerus truly is. By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus. The Elder Kaioshin formally being an East Kaioshin is from DBZ Son Goku Densetsu.]. Dragon Ball sets consist of seven balls, each one containing a different number of stars, and when all seven are gathered a dragon will appear and grant wishes. ELDER KAI: Their impacts are creating energy shockwaves, like earthquakes creating tsunamis. From a narrative and setting standpoint, I think this will be the bread and butter of your comic. But yes, he does seem to be naive about Lord Beerus' actions and nature. Here’s my reasoning for this. This sounds like a great idea and I hope you'll post your final draft here when it's complete! KING KAI, BUBBLES, GREGORY: Whoa. As the Dragon Ball Wiki states, he had to give up most of his godly powers in order to defeat Moro the first time, which likely means he was still weakened once he eventually fought Kid Buu. Based on everything we know and everything we've seen in both the manga and anime, the Grand Supreme Kai would not be able to defeat Beerus. Kibito's surprised emotion wasn't based on Lord Beerus his existence and role/power, but on the response and emotions that the elder Kai showed as he had never seen him "that afraid" before. (Though the Win Conditions say: Defeat all enemies) on King Kai's Planet. Majin Boo versus Beerus is a fight that takes place on Earth after a hostile dispute, over a cup of pudding with Majin Boo— during Beerus' visit to find the Super Saiyan God.12 1 Prelude 2 Battle 3 Aftermath 4 Film Adaptation 5 References See also: Dragon Ball Z: God and God Also despite his past history with Elder Kai, whom he had sealed within the Z Sword, Beerus is for the most part civil towards Elder Kai, though threatens to destroy him when he tests Beerus' patience when Elder Kai still holds a grudge for being sealed while complaining to himself loud enough that Beerus can hear him, though Whis manages to defuse the situation with food. The Z Sword is planted up to its hilt into a mountain in the Kaioshin Realm. The Elder gods vs Beerus. I'd be happy to help! It used to be so big that its diameter was about 100 times that of Kaiō’s current planet. Beerus goes next to whis and the two travel to King Kai planet . While still technically subserviant to both the Supreme Kai a… It was my ferocious ‘ability’!”. Well, not as much as this Majin Boo guy now, but still~. In this quest, Elder Kai wants you to defeat yourself. So since the Elder Kai was sealed inside of the Z sword for a long ass time, would he still be linked to Beerus is the same way that Shin is? However, in Xenoverse 2 and during the Majin Buu conflict it is implied that Elder Kai and Beerus are no longer linked as Elder Kai dies after transferring his life to Goku and Beerus threatens to kill him in Xenoverse 2, though in the latter situation Beerus and Elder Kai are implied to originate from different versions of the main timeline which would render the life link moot even if their lives were linked. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. So with each powerful character's introduction, fans are bound to ask how'd they'd stack up against almighty cat god. ELDER KAI: The consequences will be dire. An additional, and slightly more disturbing aspect to his character has been the ever increasing level of authority he's acquired within the Universe. --A certain powerful, evil being becomes afraid of the East Kaioshin’s ability to draw people’s power out beyond its limits, and seals him within the Z Sword. IIRC, if you want to reconcile events currently told and the Buu Saga, Beerus was less powerful than Majin Buu at the time (Elder Kai said something like "the monster who sealed me wasn't as terrible as Buu", again IIRC). The information that Beerus seals Elder Kaioshin in the Z Sword comes from June 2014's Saikyo Jump. A: The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. Old Kai, or more frequently referred to as Elder Kai, is the former Supreme Kai of Universe 7. Winner gets the last pudding. [Ref: Elder Kaioshin’s imprisonment is described in Chapter 479, but no date is specified besides it being 15 generations ago. As it was stated before, the shockwaves created with their fight gets worse overtime which would result in the deaths of everything in the universe including beerus and goku (stated by elder kai). By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus. Well the answer isn't as cut and dry as you'd might think. I was given the topic "God" and was instantly drawn to the idea of doing my own graphic novel in the Dragonball universe, with the topic of God I was instantly drawn to lord Beerus. Beerus, the Lord is the God of Destruction of Universe 7. Beerus lost, and so the planet was destroyed by the peeved God of Destruction. There probably wasn't any actual fight between the two, given the vast difference in strength between the two. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The version of Buu that fought Moro on New Namek was clearly a more capable fighter, but you have to remember that his main advantage was being immune to Moro's magic, which wouldn't play any role into trying to take on Beerus' God Ki. Could the Grand Supreme Kai Defeat Beerus? By Connor Casey Elder Kaioshin: “That’s ri~ight. KING KAI: You're just lucky that Lord Beerus was in a good enough mood to hold back his actual power. Though, according to Episode 55 of DBS, Beerus tells Whis to ensure that if Grand Zeno were to lash out, that Supreme Kai should be protected, which Whis then revealed to Goku (after the Saiyan showed shock in Beerus caring about Supreme Kai in the first place) that Beerus’ life force was directly connected to Supreme Kai’s … [Ref: Elder Kaioshin mentions fusing with the witch in Chapter 502, and says this is where his abilities come from. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Since Battle of Gods was released nearly two decades after the series had stopped running, Beerus being the one who sealed Elder Kaioshin in Z Sword is something that's never stated in the series itself. Not knowing what it is, she puts it on, merging the two forever. I cannot fathom how strong Goku would be if he trained for 75 million years with Whis. The only version of the Grand Supreme Kai that might have stood a small chance against Beerus was prior to his first fight with Moro. Since Battle of Gods was released nearly two decades after the series had stopped running, Beerus being the one who sealed Elder Kaioshin in Z Sword is something that's never stated in the series itself. What makes this even funnier is that I don’t think it matters if Beerus kills Elder Kai, since his life is linked to Supreme Kai. A - The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. — Elder Kai describing Beerus. During one of these meetings, held roughly 75 Million Before Age, they got into an argument over some trifling thing and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction, Beerus, sealed Old Kai away inside the Z Sword as it would not have been proper for him to destroy the Sacred World of the Kais itself. Looooong, looooong ago, there was this ridiculously strong and baaaaad dude. He was freaked out by how fearsome I am. But if you see something you want to reply to, you will need to register before you are able to respond. I believe that Beerus and up should be classified as at least high 3A tier, if not 2C tier, and Goku should be minimally 3A, possibly as high as 2C as well. Kaiō then took a large leftover fragment, whittled it down to a sphere, and built a road on it so that he could have fun driving there. So, what if maybe Elder Kai made a petty insult to Beers, like a cat joke or something? As the Dragon Ball Wiki states, he … --The East Kaioshin carelessly allows an old witch to take one of his Potara earrings. Not the greatest idea Haha, but do with it what you will. He figured that nobody would break the Z-Sword and he would be safe. The VS Sections; Casual Debates; Welcome to Take Five! Shoukd just do the training sessions of Beerus and Whispering instead, the other fight is a blowout. The God of Destruction for Universe 7 made quick work of every Z Fighter in his debut, including Goku at the Super Sayian God level, and even throughout Dragon Ball Super his strength has been unrivaled by almost ever being in the Dragon Ball Universe. The only version of the Grand Supreme Kai that might have stood a small chance against Beerus was prior to his first fight with Moro. So you'll probably want the disagreement between them for your story to related to one of those two situations. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. Haha, I love the idea of having a cat joke, will definetly include it. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Beerus vs Glossaryck Speed Equalized Battle takes place at the snack aisle of your local convenience store. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. Beerus: take me there at once! It is implied that Beerus … All rights reserved. He did it, he seeeeealed me away inside that sword. As a result, the East Kaioshin is stuck with the witch’s aged appearance, but he also gains several mysterious abilities. Q: Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword? Most notably, he now has the ability to draw out anyone’s hidden power to far beyond its limits. Supreme Kai , King Kai and Elder Kai are all talking to each other , until a man in Black walks up to them and pulls out a sword . Location:King Kai Planet. I have a school media assignment where I have to make some kind of graphic novel or film related to a given topic, and we are allowed to draw from other TV series and Films. So Beerus is well over 75 million years old? Though the more insane aspects of his persona are dialed back some in Xenoverse 2, his general negative attitude towards anyone who isn't him is on full display, regularly talking down to Max Stone, whom he regards as little more than muscle to be thrown into danger for the cause of the patrol. For those who haven't been keeping up with the Dragon Ball Super manga, the Kai was able to seal away the energy-absorbing wizard Moro 10 million years ago. Purple cat: 0 Weird, tiny genie thing: 1 (Totallynotchewbacca) Inconclusive: 0 This is due to the fact that the Kai's of U7 never have given the potara to a mortal before and thus assumed it would end the same. [GOKU groans] KING KAI: Oh, so you're still breathing. Let me know if you need any source materials from the manga or full color manga to create a storyboard from. tl;dr: So the long and short of it is: About 75,000,000 years ago Beerus and the Kaioshin from 15 generations ago got together for the first time in 1,000 years for a meeting. I can see where the confusion could come from, as Elder Kai revealed that Beerus sealed him in the Z-Sword, though even if Elder Kai was life-linked originally, that life-line was severed in the Buu Saga after Elder Kai sacrificed his life essence to restore Goku’s, bringing the Saiyan back to life (even if Porunga would have brought him back to life shortly after) Old Kai is average height, purple-skinned, with a small tuft of white hair on his head and a toothbrush mustache on his face. And since we know Beerus outclasses Kid Buu by quite a margin, that means Grand Supreme Kai likely wouldn't have lasted long in a fight against him. Question. As in "seal the Elder Kai in the Z-Sword magic". Me here. The East Kaioshin of the time fears the way in which the Dragon Balls confuse the natural order, and allows only the Namekians to use them, since they are the only ones he trusts to use them responsibly. 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